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		<title>No one would listen</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There's lots of interesting content in Amazon.com's launch page for "No One Would Listen", a book by the main whistleblower in the Bernie Madoff saga. The timeline in particular is very impressive: it shows that it took ten years to uncover the mess - nine since the first contact with the SEC - by which time the problem was irreversible. And that's far from the only case, which begs a question... How do we justify still having institutions supposed to keep watch so unready and unwilling to investigate red flags?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Updated on March 19th, 2010 (see a new video inside)</em></p>
<p>There&#8217;s lots of interesting content in <a title="No One Would Listen at Amazon.com" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0470553731/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_t1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_s=center-2&amp;pf_rd_r=11FAEJAZGATXRMNHSBFB&amp;pf_rd_t=101&amp;pf_rd_p=470938631&amp;pf_rd_i=507846" target="_blank">Amazon.com&#8217;s launch page</a> for &#8220;No One Would Listen&#8221;, the book by Harry Markopolos &#8211; the main whistleblower in the Bernie Madoff saga. The timeline in particular is very impressive: it shows that all in all it took ten years to uncover the mess &#8211; nine since the first contact with the SEC &#8211; by which time the problem was irreversible. And that&#8217;s far from the only case, which begs a question&#8230;<span id="more-779"></span></p>
<p>Apart from the &#8220;I want/ need to believe&#8221;-type mental traps that individuals fall into, how do we justify still having <span style="text-decoration: underline;">institutions</span> supposed to keep watch so unready and unwilling to investigate red flags? Lack of funding, qualified personnel, IT infrastructure&#8230; they all seem like weak arguments even put together.</p>
<p>We won&#8217;t go into the Taleb argument that one must be highly skeptical of &#8220;results&#8221;, and let&#8217;s not recall the Bob Rubin &#8220;focus on processes, not outcomes&#8221; (great) advice. Let&#8217;s just highlight two other books on fraud or lack of oversight &#8211; one caught, one still perhaps on the loose.</p>
<p>The most Madoff-like story is <a title="Fooling Some People website" href="http://www.foolingsomepeople.com/main/" target="_blank">David Einhorn&#8217;s Fooling Some of The People All of The Time</a>, about his years-long struggle with Allied Capital. Again, the pattern of ignored warnings is troubling, and while the story eventually played out to Mr. Einhorn&#8217;s thesis (see the 5-yr chart <a title="Allied Capital's 5-yr chart on Yahoo Finance" href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=ALD&amp;t=5y&amp;l=on&amp;z=m&amp;q=l&amp;c=" target="_blank">here</a>), it wasn&#8217;t due to regulatory action &#8211; the credit crisis <a title="Allied Capital and the Ciena bankruptcy" href="http://www.forbes.com/2008/09/30/allied-capital-ciena-markets-equity-cx_md_markets24.html" target="_blank">almost did the company in</a>.</p>
<p>The other book is a quick read &#8211; <a title="Cleaning Up at Amazon.com" href="http://www.amazon.com/Cleaning-Up-Redemptive-Seductive-Corporate/dp/B0032FO47U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1268175046&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">Barry Minkow&#8217;s Cleaning Up</a> &#8211; about ZZZZ Best, the company he founded and took public as one of the youngest persons ever to do that (remember that this is quite pre-dot.com days!). Nice story, if it wasn&#8217;t all a Ponzi scheme, and one that also took a while to uncover. Since this account is in first person and Mr. Minkow later helped the FBI uncover several corporate frauds, it&#8217;s pretty interesting lore. We&#8217;ve watched the guy live in the first Value Investing Congress and he&#8217;s a decent speaker as well.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE (March 19th, 2010):</strong> Nice and funny video interview with Mr. Markopolos on Jon Stewart&#8217;s Daily Show.</p>
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		<title>Einhorn at the VIC 2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Einhorn of Greenlight Capital is a fixture of the NY Value Investing Congress - and it's always useful to take some time to read his thoughts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Einhorn of Greenlight Capital is a fixture of the NY Value Investing Congress &#8211; and it&#8217;s always useful to take some time to read his thoughts. <a title="Einhorn's speech - VIC 2009" href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/21311124/Einhorn-Vic-2009-Speech" target="_blank">Here&#8217;s the latest speech</a>.</p>
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